I started roasting turkeys shortly after I got married in 1982. I initially learned how to roast them in a traditional manner from my mom and my wife’s Aunt Elsie. It was a great combination of old school European (mom) and southern country (Aunt Elsie). Over the years I stayed pretty true to tradition, but I spent a lot of time working to find the best way to achieve moist breast meat with fully cooked thighs. When I started egging around 2000, I started the quest for the best possible roasted turkey on the Big Green Egg. I wanted to create that traditional roasted texture with just a hint of smoke flavor, not a smoked turkey. With the attributes of the moisture retention properties of the ceramic cooker, along with the rustic flavor of cooking over charcoal, I was able to achieve a great tasting, moist turkey. Over the years I have continued to tweak the method, always striving for great flavor and moistness. Now with the advent of Mad Max Turkey Seasoning, we have taken the traditional holiday turkey to a whole new level. Myself, along with Chris Capell and the whole Dizzy Pig team, hope that you enjoy the results.
Ok, here’s how I do it, but first a couple of disclaimers.
- One, I don’t brine my turkey. As I’ve state before, there is no particularly good reason for this other than I’m too lazy to do it, or I don’t think about it in advance. Plus, I’m not sure I could find the refrigerator space for the container it would take. However, this should have no impact on if you want to brine and still follow the rest of my method/recipe.
- Second, while this method will usually result in fairly crisp skin, it is not my focus, however, it will look great as far as the final presentation.
My goal is a turkey where the breast is done at the same time as the legs (more on that later), the meat has a great flavor, and there are drippings that will make for the best gravy you ever ate (after all, how many times have you had good turkey but crummy or pedestrian gravy?). And, when the gravy is really good, you will make a really memorable impression on your guests. This is a very traditional turkey that benefits from the magic of the egg. All of this in my most humble of opinions, of course.
A Turkey (I like a fresh killed bird, but not necessarily a free range or heritage bird – they are expensive and I find them to be sinewy)***
Dizzy Pig Mad Max Turkey Seasoning
1 bottle white wine (most any good white will do)
1/2 pound of butter (2 sticks) for the turkey, softened
2 onions, halved
2 apples, quartered
1 lemon, halved
Some celery fronds
Gallon zip-lock bags
Stock pot (at least 4 quarts)
1/2 pound of butter (2 sticks) for the gravy
1/2 to 1 cup flour
White wine, reserved from above
Dizzy Pig Mad Max Turkey Seasoning
Neck, giblets, liver (from stockpot)
- The bird
- Clean turkey. Put neck, heart, giblets, liver, and fat into a large pot.
- Add a halved onion, couple of stalks celery, some carrots, and 2 to three tablespoons of the Mad Max Turkey Seasoning.
- Fill the pot to the top with water and let it simmer all day. This will be your stock for making the gravy. Let this simmer all day long, adding water occasionally to keep the level up. This will make your house smell great all day long, and create a wonderful rich stock for the gravy.
- Pat the bird dry, and season the cavity with Mad Max Turkey Seasoning fairly liberally.
- Stick one small onion (halved), one half apple (quartered), and one lemon (halved) into the cavity.
- Take two tablespoons of the Mad Max Turkey Seasoning and mix it into the butter ’til you have a nice paste.
- Put the bird in a roasting pan, breast up, elevated either on a v-rack or, in my case, I have a trivet-like metal piece that raises the bird about 1 inch above the pan.
- Add two apple quarters to the roasting pan around the bird.
- Important step: 20 to 30 minutes before you put it in the egg (or oven), take a one gallon zip lock bag full of ice cubes and lay it over the breasts for the 20 to 30 minutes. What this does is lower the breast temps sufficiently that over the course of the roasting, the breast and thighs will be done at the same time. Over the years (and I’ve been doing the Thanksgiving turkey now for over 30 years), I’ve tried every trick in the book (paper bags, breast side down, terry cloth towels over the breast, etc.) and the ice bag absolutely works. I’ve been doing this now for about 20 years, and I’ve consistently had perfectly done, moist breasts finished right along with well cooked thighs. If you don’t do anything else, try this. Remove the bag of ice just before putting it in the egg.
- Important step: Last steps prior to putting the bird in the egg (or oven), liberally apply Mad Max Turkey Seasoning & butter paste all over the bird. You can work some under the skin if you want to, but it’s not necessary.
- Pour half the bottle of white wine all over the bird and in the cavity. DON’T drink the rest of the bottle, you will need it for the gravy.
- Set up the Egg or oven at 325°F. More details on this below.
- Cook turkey, basting it with a bulb baster (about once every 20 -30 minutes after the first hour). There’s no need to check the bird’s temps until the last hour or two.
- If using a water pan for a heat barrier, regularly check the water pan underneath the roasting pan to ensure it stays full of water.
- When the skin starts to brown, tent it loosely with aluminum foil until about the last hour.
- Remove the foil to let the skin crisp up and turn a nice deep golden brown.
- Pull the turkey out when a deep poke in the thigh and breast results in clear juices running, and when the drumstick rotated freely at the joint.
- My turkey weighed in at around 14 pounds. At 325°F, it took a good 4 hours to be done.
- Very important: When you pull the roasting pan and turkey from the egg and you’re removing the turkey from the roasting pan, first tilt the bird up so that all the juices in the cavity pour out into the pan (you do NOT want to lose this).
- Put you bird aside on a cutting board or platter and cover in foil until ready to carve.
- Take your pan with the all the dripping in it. Note, that dark stuff you see is not burnt. It is well browned and will affect the final color of your gravy, but trust me, this is where all the real flavor is. Note – depending on how dark the drippings end up being will determine how dark your gravy turns out. Sometimes it’s lighter, sometimes darker. It will be fantastic either way.
- Discard the apple that was in the pan all through the roasting.
- Pour the drippings into a bowl or large measuring cup. In this case, I’ve gotten about 2 full cups of liquid from the pan. Let it sit for about 5 minutes so that the fat separates from the good drippings.
- Using a ladle, gently remove the fat (DON’T throw it away) and leave just the dark pan juices. You now have your bowl of crud drippings to be used in the gravy. It’s beautiful, dark and rich in flavor. This is the true key to your gravy.
- The gravy
- Now, you are really ready to make the gravy. Take your pan and place it over a burner (in this case both front and back burners) on high heat.
- Add two sticks of butter (or if you have enough turkey fat from the pan use it for even a richer gravy) and whisk it hard, pulling up as much of the pan crud (aka fond) as possible. All through this process you need to be constantly whisking in order to avoid any burning or scorching. As the butter melts and you dislodge the fond from the pan, it will be bubbly and brown.
- Now start adding flour in equal amounts to the butter/fat. Keep whisking and working it in ’til it’s a bubbly, pasty texture.
- Keep whisking the flour/butter/crud mixture until you have a nice smooth roux. There should be no lumps of flour.
- After about 4 – 5 minutes it should be thick and smooth.
- Add the wine to the roux in the roasting pan. You should still have it on a high flame, so the alcohol will boil off quickly.
- Keep whisking. The key to a nice smooth lump free gravy is to whisk the roux ’til it’s lump free and then keep whisking the other ingredients in so that it stays nice and smooth. Because of the high heat, it will be constantly bubbling, this is why you have to keep whisking, so it doesn’t scorch or burn.
- Once the wine has been mixed in, and reduced about ¼ to 1/3, add in the liquid that you saved from the pan and separated from its fat. This is the true key to the gravy, it imparts so much great flavor.
- Start ladling the stock you’ve been cooking all day into the pan, one ladle at a time, continuing to whisk it in.
- Keep the heat on, bring it all to a boil. Keep adding stock ’til you have the desired thickness.
- Add a little extra Mad Max Turkey Seasoning to get the final layer of flavor set.
- The big finish
- Take the neck, giblets, heart and liver from the stock pot. Remove the meat from the neck (you’ll be amazed how much meat there is).
- Chop it all up (meat, giblets, heart and liver) very finely and add it to the gravy. It’s ok to feed a little of this to the dog(s), they love it.
- In a small bowl, mix some of the stock with some flour to create a thickening agent. By doing this in a separate bowl, you avoid the problem of adding flour directly to the gravy with the intention of thickening it but in reality, you’ll be creating lumps.
- If the gravy is too thin for your tastes, you can stir in some of this thickening agent ’til you get the gravy you want. Too thick? Simply add some more stock.
- Final Note: This gravy will not look like the creamy stuff from a jar, nor is it intended to, but I’ll bet it’s the best you ever had.
- The finished product; succulent, moist, juicy turkey with all the great flavor added by roasting in the Big Green Egg, and the best tasting gravy you ever had, all enhanced with the addition of the Mad Max Turkey Seasoning.
***I typically start with a fresh killed bird from the grocery, not necessarily organic or free range, but one which hasn’t been frozen like a rock for a year.
The Egg set-up
Sometime before Thanksgiving, test out your setup. My first year I found that my roasting pan would not work with the grid on top of inverted plate setter, it was just too high into the dome. I ended up borrowing a rig from Chris Capell that consisted of two metal bars and a pie plate that fit under the grid in its normal place on the fire ring. I kept the pie plate filled with water all day so as to create a good indirect heat barrier from my roasting pan, thereby avoiding any scorching of my drippings (this is key to having the good drippings for gravy).
The next year I did a set up of inverted plate setter with the little green BGE ‘feet” on top, and the roasting pan on top of the feet. Key here is to have a heat barrier and sufficient air flow under your roasting pan to avoid any scorching in the pan. I have an 80 year old aluminum oval turkey roasting pan that fits perfectly in a large egg. This time of year, the grocery stores sell all kinds and sizes of metal pans. Figure out what you need to fit in the egg.
Other set ups that work include using a ‘spider’ with a pizza stone and then the grid, or the spider/pizza stone with an adjustable rig setting the roasting pan on the bars in their lowest setting.
Note, if you are roasting your turkey in the oven, simply put a rack in a low position and put your roasting pan on the rack.
I set up as full a load of lump as I could (almost to the top of the fire ring, there was maybe a 1 inch gap between the lump and the bottom of my plate setter). I added one good chunk of apple wood (other good woods are peach and pecan). I didn’t want a ‘smoked’ turkey. When it was done, the turkey had a nice hint of smoke. It’s your call as to how smokey you want yours to taste but remember, a turkey will absorb a lot of smoke, so take it easy. I got a good established fire going at 325°F. I let it burn for about 45 minutes prior to putting the turkey in. I found that a full load of lump at 325°F lasts only about 8 hours, so for a 20+ pound bird, it gets a little close.
My turkey weighed in at around 14 pounds. At 325°F it took a good 4 hours to be done. During the cook I regularly basted it with a bulb baster (about once every 20 -30 minutes after the first hour). If using a water pan for a heat barrier regularly check the water pan underneath the roasting pan to insure it stays full of water. When the skin started browning, I tented it loosely with aluminum foil until about the last hour, when I removed the foil to let the skin crisp up and come up to the color I wanted (a nice deep golden brown). I didn’t check temps until the last hour or two. Even then, I pulled the turkey out when two things happened. First, when a deep poke in the thigh and breast resulted in clear juices running, and second, when the drumstick rotated freely at the joint (hey, this is how my mom and Aunt Elsie taught me to do it).
So, how do you make great gravy? Its really pretty easy, particularly at this point because you have created all the wonderful ingredients that you really need to do it. Take your pan with all the dripping in it. Note, that dark stuff you see is not burnt. It is well browned and will affect the final color of your gravy, but trust me, this is where all the real flavor is.
Note – depending on how dark the drippings end up being will determine how dark your gravy turns out. Sometimes its lighter, sometimes darker. It will be fantastic either way.